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Achieve Your Goals with Hal Elrod

635: How to Create Thriving Personal & Professional Relationships with Michael Trainer

Achieve Your Goals with Hal Elrod

Hal Elrod

Education, Self-improvement, Business

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

We are living in a world that is more digitally connected than ever, yet there are millions of people who are struggling with loneliness. Whether it's your marriage, friendships, or work, that lack of deep connection can quietly affect your overall health and happiness.

Today, I'm joined by my friend Michael Trainer, who has a new book out called Resonance: The Art and Science of Human Connection. Michael is one of the most fascinating people I've ever met, and his work is centered around helping people create deeper, more aligned relationships in every area of life. From co-creating the Global Citizen Festival, which has helped raise over $40 billion to defeat extreme poverty, to studying human connection across cultures and the neuroscience behind it, Michael brings a unique blend of real-world experience and science-based insights.

In our conversation, we discussed the loneliness epidemic and why so many people feel disconnected despite having greater access to communication than ever before. Michael shares what it means to create "resonance" in your relationships, how the people you surround yourself with directly influence your emotional and physical well-being, and practical ways to become someone who attracts and builds powerful, life-giving connections.

We also explore how to identify the relationships that energize you versus the ones that drain you, and how taking intentional actions can completely transform the quality of your relationships and your life.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • The Loneliness Epidemic Is Actually Killing us
  • What Resonance In Relationships Really Means
  • Getting Jumped at 12 y/o & Michael's Healing Journey
  • Why You Have to Tune Your Own Instrument First
  • Defining "The More" in Relationships and Life
  • Identifying The People Who Are Positive or Negative Energy
  • The Relational Bucket List: Why Shared Experiences Matter
  • Networking 3.0 - Leading by Being an Offering
  • How Resonance Lives in the Space Between the Notes
  • The Morning Three Practice for Building Better Relationships
  • Relationships Are The Biggest Driver Of Health & Happiness

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Achieve Your Goals podcast, the show that empowers you to wake up to your full potential and achieve your biggest goals and dreams.

0:09.6

I am your host, Hal Elrod, and I invite you to join us each week as we share actionable strategies to take your life to the next level,

0:16.6

as well as interview world-class experts and entrepreneurs who have achieved extraordinary goals

0:21.9

themselves, and we ask them to give you a peek behind the curtain and teach you exactly what

0:26.4

you need to do to do the same. Ready? Here we go.

0:35.4

Hello, friends. If you have relationships in your life, this is going to be for you. And of course, you do. But today's guest is the author of the new book, Resonance. And Michael Traynor is one of the most interesting individuals that I've ever met. But his book is what I'm obsessed with. Literally, I got this book before it even came out.

0:54.5

He sent me a copy. And I don't know that I've been this enthralled with a book because it is

1:00.7

relevant, it's practical, and it solves a problem that all of us have, which is relationship

1:06.4

challenges, whether those are personal or professional. As an entrepreneur, this is teaching me how to

1:12.3

create resonance in the relationships and even the individuals who I want to develop

1:17.6

relationships with. In my marriage, this is teaching me how to connect with my wife at a deeper

1:22.9

and more meaningful level. With my children, this is teaching me the same, how to connect at a deeper,

1:27.7

more meaningful level. This is the best book I've ever read, and it trumps to me how to

1:34.6

friends and influence people would be an example of the most famous book in regards to how to

1:38.8

connect with people at a deep, deep level. But here's where it goes beyond that. It talks about

1:43.2

the actual scientific evidence and

1:47.2

research around what challenges in our relationships due to our physical body. So our cortisol level

1:55.2

is spiked when we're in stressful relationships. When we are experiencing loneliness or

2:00.8

disconnection, our immune system

2:02.7

is suppressed. And for me, what really resonates is our cognitive function is diminished when

2:09.2

our relationships are not thriving. And you can relate to that when you're having an argument with,

2:13.5

let's say, your significant other, your spouse, whatever, right? When you guys are fighting,

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