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The Conglue Light, a myth in circling glue, lead thou me on the night is dark and I am far from home.

Hello and welcome to another additional Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John Dillin.

It's April 29, 2016. We're doing a one camera shot today. I'm running audio and video and I'm doing the interview.

But we're here to interview Clay Christensen. Re-interview Clay Christensen, I should say.

Those of you who follow Mormon Stories will remember Clay's interview that I did.

Maybe a few months ago around Christmas time, I interviewed my friend Matt Elgren and Clay Christensen.

Matt, someone that I knew at Microsoft for many years and he had his crisis of faith many years ago.

And for many, many years was sort of alone in his family as the only sort of non-leaver.

That was a great story to hear Matt's.

But then we also paired Matt's story with the story of Clay Christensen. Clay is Matt's brother-in-law.

He's married to Matt's wife, Laurie.

And Clay was a faithful, developed member of the church, true believer for over 50 years.

And my memory serves me.

And just last sort of October is Clay lost his faith.

So by interviewing him in December, we were interviewing someone who was very fresh to losing his faith.

But also we talked about how much it meant to Matt to wait so patiently for an ally in the family to join him and how Clay became an ally.

So since that time, Clay did the interview.

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