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What do you do when life doesn't just throw you a curveball, but completely changes the path you thought you were on?

Because sooner or later, all of us face a moment when that plan falls apart.

A diagnosis we didn't see coming, a dream that quietly ends, a future that suddenly

looks like nothing what we imagined. Today's guest is someone who spent her career studying

exactly what happens next. Dr. Maya Shankar is a cognitive scientist, former founder and chair

of the White House Behavioral Science Team, and the creator and host of the award-winning podcast,

a slight change of plans. And now she's the author of a powerful

new book, The Other Side of Change. Who would become When Life Makes Other Plans? In today's show,

we dive into what science and lived experience can teach us about navigating upheaval. We'll explore

how unexpected change can act as a form of revelation, why our sense of control

shatters during life's hardest moments, and how to rebuild an identity that's resilient when

roles, labels, or dreams fall away. If you've ever asked yourself, why did this happen to me,

or wondered who you might become on the other side of a major life shift, this show is for you.

So, other side of a major life shift, this show is for you. So in chapter one, the story of Olivia, wow, you really know how to start a book.

You've captured my attention fully with the story of Olivia.

Can you walk us through?

First of all, thanks so much for having me, Jason.

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