Hey everyone, Benkewe Radio, how on earth are you doing? I'm going to be speaking about

a topic, a huge amount of people. I know what I know about because if I was to think

about my years of coaching, we all have the intention to change in the way that we have

it kind of in our head. It all just looks logical and simple, but then when our plans

for change come up against our lifestyle, our behaviors, our beliefs, other people, the

environments that we live in, we find ourselves coming unstuck. And one of those things that

can lead us astray quickly causes to come unstuck is self-sabotage. And of course this is

quite an internal thing. This is based on our belief systems, our upbringing, our environment,

lots of different things. And I'm very excited to speak to someone that has experienced

this and coaches this every day. Natalie Butler, welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me. Thank you. Are you well? I'm very well, thank you. Yeah, very

well. Yeah. So, that's, can I, can we nats today? That is, that is the nickname, isn't it?

Yeah, we can, we can go for nats. Yeah. So picking up on the background, paint a little

picture of your life right now because one people to understand firstly, you as a person

in where you come from with this conversation as a coach, a mum, etc. Yeah. So I kind

of coach very much personal development. So what does that mean? Well, I have been through

a journey myself as a mum of two boys, five and seven, and suffer with self-sabotage

or have suffered with self-sabotage. So I very much coach clarity, growth and direction

because I myself had experience holding myself back and what that looks like. And probably

what even is self-sabotage? And I think it's really when we self-impose a prevention to

reach our goals. So we self-impose something that's going to stop us in our tracks from

actually moving more towards our goals. And I have been here, I don't know how many times

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