Welcome back to the Diet Dr. Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Brett Schur.

Today I'm very pleased to be joined once again by Professor Ben Bickman.

Now, if you've heard of Ben Bickman, hopefully you have.

We did an episode with him, podcast episode number 35.

And I gotta be honest, he's just a great guy. I really like speaking

with Ben, talking to him, getting his opinion on things and hearing his research about all the

research. And I think I try not to be too much of a, was it a boy fan or something or just a

fan of his because I want to push him and I want to make him clarify things

because he's so good at answering questions

and so good at being clear about what we know and what we don't

and still talking with passion

and having the experience of being a researcher

doing the studies and therefore knowing how to interpret studies.

So we spend a lot of time talking about insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia.

Because that's what he's been focusing on.

I mean, so to get to his sort of his accolades, he's a PhD in bioenergetics

and did a postdoc in metabolic disorders.

He is an associate professor at BYU in the Department of Physiology and Developmental

Biology, and he focuses on insulin and ketones and their role in type 2 diabetes and obesity

and metabolic disease and neurodegenerative disease.

So this is his area.

He knows more about this area than just about anybody in the world at this point,

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