All right, this is second set O questions from the listeners, the most important philosophical

questions that my listeners tend to grapple with. This is number two. How does UPB apply to

specific real world moral dilemmas? This is from GROC. People frequently test the framework

against everyday or edge cases,

relationships, e.g. is love, involuntary response to virtue, how does that work with infants and

animals? Family obligations, e.g. do we have moral duties to parents slash family if they're

abusive? Divorce inheritance, co-parenting with difficult personalities, or whether it's small,

to give family

advantages, a leg up. These tie into broader consistency checks on UPB. Now, of course, the reality is

that we absolutely have to check morality and check our moral premises and how things apply.

So, with regards regards is love,

involuntary responsive virtue, how does the work with infants and animals? So infants we love because we have created them, because they are life, because they are half us, because they are

cute, because they are affectionate, because they are responsive.

They have not chosen virtues as yet, but we can have great affection for our offspring,

a very passionate devotion, and part of that's biochemical as well.

Animals share the same things with their offspring, so that's fine.

Do we morally admire infants? No, of course not, but there's many

different kinds of love. There is the love of attachment and helpless and dependence and cuddly

and eye contact and babies are adorable. And so, but it's different from, I mean, obviously,

obviously it's different from adult, mature, and in particular,

romantic love. We would want these things to be very different. As our children grow and they

begin to make good moral choices, we can admire their strength, their consistency, their

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