It's time for episode 624 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, September 24th, 2025.

Clockwise, four people, that's captured at 30 frames per minute.

I'm one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the internet by my good pal, my dear friend.

It is Dan, the man, Morin.

How you doing, Dan?

That is really slow.

You can't see it, but I'm doing, like, jerky movements to mimic.

I think you could define frames however you want to.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Like, we accuse 30 people of crimes for the next minute. Oh, okay. All right. Like we, we, we, we,

each frame is, 30 people of crimes for the next three thousand milliseconds or something. I don't know. I got nothing. Well, while we ponder how we define frames here on the show,

let me introduce the first of our two guests. To my left, senior writer at CNET. It's Jeff Carlson. Welcome back to the show, Jeff. Thanks for having me. I have a whole stack of picture frames back here. Did I misread the assignment? No, you did well. Perfect. Thank you. And to my left this week, it is video creator and podcast host, Stephen Robles. Welcome back, Stephen.

The Theater of the Mind. Hey, it's great to be here. I love it. Let's get underway. We've got

four topics. 30 minutes. Mine for you is this. Meta announced new AR glasses last week that

actually seemed to be getting pretty positive reviews, the

ray band display glasses.

I would just love to know, do they interest you?

Is there a way in which they could interest you?

And we'll start with you, Jeff.

So this is one of those things that has always seemed just out of reach because the technology

was never going to be small enough or good enough.

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