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Hello and welcome to trashy divorces. Everybody's favorite good podcast about bad relationships.

My name is Alicia and St Stacy. You are continuing our

international tour of trash this week. Yes, indeed. Hello, everyone. My name is Stacy, and today

we are traveling to the Netherlands. Go Dutch. Where a pair of my paternal great-grandparents immigrated from after World War

1 and where these days a famous singer and a famous singing competition have been in the hot seat

of late. Before we get started, we have some new patrons to thank for supporting our little

indie show over on patreon.com slash trashy divorces.

Huge, huge. Thanks and praise in tons of glitter to M.J.E. Tulsi, Paula B. Laura L. Tracy C.

and Tracy. Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much new Patreon supporters, as well as sustaining Patreon supporters.

Y'all are magic.

Absolutely, you are.

Alicia, if we're going to reverse my great-grandparents' journey to America, what do we have to do?

We've got to load up in the boat and go, go, go.

Music do we got to load up in the boat and go go go oh stacey you've been working hard on this for a while i'm excited to hear it you've been making general exclamations of and oh and oh my and holy cats and how do you pronounce that word yeah how do you

pronounce that word you're going to do great elisa today we're going to meet two people that i would

guess most americans have never heard of and i had not until i started googling like famous dutch

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