I'm pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for the drive to work.

Okay, so I've been doing a bunch of guild podcasts, and I'm up to the Orjjav Syndicate.

So that's white and black. So let's talk a little bit about white and black, and then I'll get

into their three visits to Rapnika.

Okay, so white is all about the good of the group, wanting peace, realizing that if we all work together, we can create a world that is good for all of us.

Black is much more self-centered. Black is more about, I want a world in which it gives me

the chance to have the things that I want.

And that black is really much one that believes in systems that reward, that reward the individual,

that say, oh, well, an individual that excels has a chance to thrive.

And that white and black are obviously enemies.

Like one of the challenges of making color pairs when their enemies is at some point,

there's a fundamental disagreement of what's going on.

And that white really wants to do what's good for everybody and black wants to do what's good for black.

How do you sort of bring those together?

So what we found with white and black,

what tends to work best is somebody who's very selfish about their group.

So it has the group sense of white.

It has the, I'm looking out for others,

but it has kind of the, but not everybody,

it's my own group.

And so one of the things that we were looking for very much was

we were trying to find some model of something

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