62. Unabomber 2: A mastermind with a lack of insight?

Bad People

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True Crime

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

After six years of inactivity, the Unabomber is back. The FBI reinvigorate the investigation and the chase begins once more. When Ted Kaczynski’s brother, David, finds an earlier version of the Unabomber’s Manifesto among a series of letters from Ted to their mother, he calls the FBI. In this episode of Bad People, Dr Julia Shaw and comedian Sofie Hagen discuss Kaczynski’s childhood, dubious psychological testing at Harvard University and challenge the media narrative that he was some sort of ‘criminal mastermind’. In court, Kaczynski’s lawyers wanted to plead insanity, but that proved difficult. Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence and terrorism. CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Louisa Field Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Editor: Rami Tzabar Academic Consultant for The Open University: Dr James Munro #BadPeople_BBC Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

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0:00.0	Hey, let me ask you, sir.
0:03.8	Have you heard George's podcast?
0:06.1	Me and Ben Brick are back with a blast.
0:08.1	This time with stories from Africa's past, not too distant, unsolved mysteries, unsung
0:13.8	heroes from untold histories.
0:15.8	I'm trying to make sense of the present day, join me on this journey by pressing play.
0:23.8	Have you heard George's podcast, Chapter 4?
0:27.2	Listen on BBC Sounds.
0:29.6	BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.
0:35.6	Three, two, one.
0:39.2	This is part two of the Unabomber.
0:41.2	If you haven't listened to part one, then you should probably do that first.
0:45.2	On this episode, what happens when your reality crumbles, but you haven't realized it?
0:50.2	This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence and terrorism.
0:53.6	There may also be some strong language.
0:55.7	Where do you summarize what's happened so far?
0:57.9	Yeah, so we're talking about Ted Kaczynski, and he's the Unabomber.
1:02.8	And he has so far sent a bunch of bombs.
1:06.2	I'm going to say we've talked about 12 of them, to a bunch of universities and airlines
1:12.6	and students and all sorts of people.
1:18.8	And at this point, the press has published his manifesto, which is all about how technology
1:24.9	is destroying the world.
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