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Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

6193 How to Screw Virtue! Listener Questions

Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

Stefan Molyneux

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🗓️ 23 November 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Stefan Molyneux addresses a recurring question from listeners:

"Is it against UPB to preemptively attack? Someone is at the border of your property with a gun or troops are amassing at a border. Is it moral to attack them first? How far in advance are you able to act and still be moral?"

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0:00.0

All right. Questions from X, listeners, or readers. Is it against UPP to preemptively attack?

0:10.2

UPB, of course, is a rational system of secular ethics. You can get the book for free at

0:16.7

free domain.com slash books. You can also get a shortened version in the last third of my free book

0:21.7

essential philosophy, is it against UPB to preemptively attack? Someone is at the border of your

0:27.2

property with a gun or troops are amassing at a border isn't moral to attack them first. How far in

0:31.7

advance are you able to act and still be moral? So, this is edge case paralysis. I'll be straight up with you. This is edge case

0:42.4

paralysis. So the goal of this kind of question is to sort of pretend that morality is so

0:50.5

helpless and hopeless and complicated that it can't ever really be sorted out or understood.

1:00.3

It is if somebody is starving to death

1:05.4

and they are stealing a loaf of bread, is that okay?

1:09.2

If someone has stolen something, and then they hand it to their

1:17.0

children and their grandchildren, at what point, I ask you, at what point does it become theirs? Is it

1:25.2

beyond... Right. And this is sort of like the argument of, well, what, or saying, well, what is the magical

1:35.0

difference, let's say that we say that the age of 18 is when somebody becomes a legal adult.

1:40.7

Well, what is the magical philosophical difference between, you know, 17.999 and 18 years

1:47.9

old and it's all this just edge case paralysis. And the origins, and I'll answer the question,

1:56.8

I will, I'll answer the question, but I just want you to understand that this is a tool of evil.

2:04.9

Now, I'm not saying that everybody who asks these questions is evil, obviously, right?

2:09.2

But you are unwitting tools of malevolent forces.

2:13.9

And the question of when is self-defense legitimate,

2:18.4

do you have to wait to get stabbed and, you know, all of this stuff?

2:22.2

Edge case paralysis.

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