Everyone, thank you for radio, how are you doing, Tom and I are back to go down, another

cheeky little rabbit hole, all based around some new signs that we've seen in the world

of exercise, mental health, and just general movement, how's it going, Tom?

Yeah, man, things are good. I am currently being absolutely interfered with by the pollen,

so if I do sneeze on the podcast, I apologise in advance to the listeners, I'll try to like

mute myself before that. But yeah, it's been a bit rough for the last couple of days,

but other than that, I'm good. How are you?

With hay fever, you just need stronger drugs, mate.

There's always the answer, isn't it?

We're having a very interesting debate in, I'm sure many people are aware of a piece

of software now called Slack. Many businesses use it to communicate. I, our business uses

it to communicate as a team, and we're having a discussion in Slack this morning before

our team meeting where we were talking about how certain supplements are taken by certain

people who really actually want to take drugs, but they maybe don't want to or can't

or it's illegal or whatever, depending on the substance, and end up just taking supplements.

So, Tom, I don't know if you want to ramble on because it was your ramble and I don't

steal your thunder.

Yeah, so I noticed this like years ago when everyone was taking Jack 3D, so anyone who

doesn't remember the original Jack 3D recipe, Jack 3D was a pre-workout supplement that

came out in like 2010. I want to say it was like that rough time. It was when I started

training, it was around, and Jack 3D contained something called one three dimethamiline, which

was like a, it was chemically very, very similar to unfettered means. And it made you feel

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