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Thank you. Hi, I'm David Barr-Curtley, author of the book Save Me Please and other stories,

and welcome to episode 617 of Geeks Guide to the Galaxy.

Today on the show we'll be discussing Rogers Elasney's classic novel creatures of light and darkness

about a cosmic battle between godlike beings.

And this will include spoilers for everything in the book.

So just be aware of that. And I'm joined by three guests. So first up we've got Andrea Kale,

making her 49th appearance on the show. She's a graduate of the Odyssey Writers Workshop.

And her short fiction appears in the Writers of the Future Anthology, Fantasy Magazine, and

Lightspeed.

She's been a television writer, producer, and script supervisor for shows such as late night

with Conan O'Brien, The Chew, and WWE's Monday Night Raw and Friday Night Smackdown.

And she's currently a writer for Pixelberry Studios. So, Andrea, welcome to the show.

Good to be back, Dave. For my 50th, uh, next time I, do I get

like a, a gift, like a Timex watch? I don't know. You're the first person to reach 50.

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