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The Premed Years

615: Why His Application ‘Made Sense’—and Scored 16 Interviews

The Premed Years

Ryan Gray

Education, Science, Health & Fitness, Medicine, How To

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

(00:00) — Late to medicine: Chris didn’t consider being a doctor until college, shaped by early family experiences with inadequate care.

(01:20) — Struggling student to UC Davis: He describes a nontraditional path and surprise at earning a single college acceptance.

(02:50) — “You won’t amount to much”: A sixth-grade dismissal and falling in with the wrong crowd set the stage.

(04:40) — Misdiagnosed and othered: Labeled with severe ADD, placed in special education, later correctly diagnosed with a comprehension disability.

(06:25) — Not going the other way: He credits his mother’s advocacy and a teacher, Mr. Russell, for keeping him engaged.

(09:00) — College reset and new peers: A friend shares MD-PhD resources and expands his horizon.

(10:35) — Outreach program to research home: A scholars program places him in a lab with a PI for four formative years.

(11:50) — On DEI and mentors: He reflects on access programs and the impact of Dr. Connie Champagne.

(13:50) — First OR spark: Shadowing an orthopedic surgeon shows him the excitement of patient care beyond pipetting.

(15:40) — Sustaining motivation: Reframing medicine as a currency for service and asking who do I want to be?

(17:50) — Community and advocacy: He discusses serving Indigenous communities and advocating on the Hill for GME in Indian country.

(20:50) — Crafting the Why: How deep reflection and post-it mapping shaped his personal statement.

(21:55) — Why MD-PhD: An MD-PI at a summer program shows how medical training sharpens research questions.

(23:30) — First interview relief: Landing an invite during the COVID cycle felt like validation.

(24:45) — Strategy and scope: 23 applications, West Coast focus, MSTP and non-MSTP programs.

(26:00) — Coherence wins: A clear why plus tangible research output made his application click.

(27:45) — Multiple acceptances: He recalls the emotions of earning 9–10 offers.

(28:40) — To students doubting themselves: Separate self-worth from others’ opinions and keep going.

(31:20) — What’s next: Interest in dermatology residency and leading a lab studying skin disease mechanisms.

Chris never planned on medicine. Growing up in Southern California, he saw family members with preventable disease go uncared for, struggled in school, and was misdiagnosed with severe ADD in middle school before a later diagnosis of a comprehension disability. After being told in sixth grade he wouldn’t amount to much, a continuation school, his mother’s advocacy, and a teacher’s attention kept him afloat.

At UC Davis, an outreach email changed everything, placing him in a lab for four years and opening the door to both science and medicine. A friend introduced him to MD-PhD resources, and shadowing an orthopedic surgeon turned interest into excitement. Chris shares how he built an enduring motivation by reframing medicine as a currency for service, with a commitment to community, including Indigenous communities.


He breaks down the hardest premed task—articulating Why Medicine—and the post-it exercise that helped him find a coherent thread. Applying during the first COVID cycle, he earned 16 interview invites and 9–10 acceptances by presenting a clear why and tangible research work. We also discuss advocacy for more GME positions in Indian country and his interest in dermatology and leading a lab.


If you’ve ever been told you won’t make it, this conversation offers practical ways to keep going.


What You'll Learn:

- How a misdiagnosis and school setbacks were addressed and reframed

- Ways to access research and mentorship through outreach programs

- A practical method to build a coherent Why Medicine

- What made his MD-PhD application make sense and earn 16 interviews

- Using community and advocacy to sustain motivation

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Premed Years, session number 615.

0:08.7

Hello and welcome to the premed years, where we believe that collaboration, not competition, is key to your success.

0:16.4

I'm your host, Dr. Ryan Gray, and in this podcast, we share with you stories, encouragement, and

0:21.3

information that you need to know to help guide you on your path to becoming a physician.

0:27.6

Welcome to the pre-med years. Thank you so much for joining me today. I have an amazing guest

0:33.9

who's going to talk about overcoming doubt from everyone around you.

0:39.5

Before we jump in to that, though, I want to talk about the MCAT Minute.

0:42.9

Brought to you by Medical School Headquarters, our amazing MCAT team.

0:46.5

Did you know, we do MCAT prep?

0:48.3

Go check it out, medical schoolhq.net.

0:51.2

We have some free tools coming.

0:53.4

They might even be out by the time this episode comes out.

0:56.0

So check out Medical School HQ.net.

0:58.0

Check out our free resources menu item and see what we have to offer,

1:03.0

including our amazing new AISA feedback tool.

1:07.0

Right now, as I'm recording this, it's specifically for the personal statement.

1:10.0

But depending on how you all use it and the feedback that we get, more may be coming.

1:16.6

We'll see.

1:17.3

We'll see how that works.

1:18.8

I want to talk about Chris for a second, our guest today.

1:23.4

Chris is an MD PhD student who went from a sixth grader told he wouldn't amount to much

1:29.4

to earning 16, yeah, 16 interview invites with multiple acceptances.

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