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| 0:00.0 | It's time for episode 611 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, June 25th, 2025. |
| 0:09.8 | Clockwise, Four People, Four almost half over, but this episode is just getting started. |
| 0:31.9 | My name is Dan Moran, and I'm joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, the one, the only, Micah, Sergeant. How are you doing |
| 0:38.0 | today, Micah? I am doing well, Dan. It's lightly sprinkling outside. Must be nice. Yes, |
| 0:46.0 | it's a nice chill day. Wow. Okay. Here it is a million degrees. I'm sorry to hear that. |
| 0:53.4 | This is, of course, the show where we invite on two fantastic guests to talk about |
| 0:57.7 | four tech topics to my left this week. |
| 0:59.8 | It is former Wired Editor and Director at the Applied Social Media Lab at Harvard. |
| 1:03.8 | Meg Marco, welcome back, Meg. |
| 1:05.8 | Thank you. |
| 1:06.4 | It's hot outside, but it's warmer in here. |
| 1:09.7 | I assume you mean in the podcast. It's just nice and toasty in the podcast. |
| 1:14.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:15.4 | And to my left, a co-host of primary technology, it's Stephen Robles. Welcome back to the show, Stephen. |
| 1:22.0 | Thanks so much for having me. Great to be here. All right. Let me kick things off. |
| 1:27.4 | Artificial intelligence. You can't escape it. |
| 1:29.4 | One of the narratives this week is that Apple might be considering purchasing an artificial |
| 1:35.1 | intelligence company to bolster its failing or failed artificial intelligence ventures. |
| 1:40.8 | I'm kind of curious. Do you think Apple needs to buy its way out of this dilemma? And if so, |
| 1:45.6 | is perplexity, which is the much rumored firm that it might be considering. Is that actually |
| 1:50.2 | the right answer? Is there a right answer? I don't know. Meg, what do you think? |
| 1:54.8 | This is such a hard question, but it does seem that everyone is thinking about this. |
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