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The History of Literature

610 How to Become Famous (with Cass Sunstein) | My Last Book with James MacManus

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

Arts, Books, History

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 27 May 2024

ā±ļø 71 minutes

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Summary

Why do we read John Keats and not one of his well-regarded peers? Why do some authors disappear into the sands of time - while others, virtually unknown in their day, become posthumous household names? In this episode, Jacke talks to Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein (How to Become Famous: Lost Einsteins, Forgotten Superstars, and How the Beatles Came to Be) about the phenomenon of fame, with a particular emphasis on how it affects the world of literature. PLUS author and TLS managing director James MacManus (Love in a Lost Land) stops by to discuss his choice for the last book he'll ever read. Help support the show atĀ patreon.com/literatureĀ orĀ historyofliterature.com/donate. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more atĀ www.thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The History of Literature Podcast is a member of the Podglamorate Network and LIT Hub Radio.

0:07.0

Hello.

0:11.0

Come with me to the University of Chicago, the end of the 1980s, and your humble

0:15.9

podcaster is trying to figure out where he fits into the world. In high

0:21.2

school I was more or less a dumb jock and now I was thrown into the deep end

0:26.8

swimming with the intellectual sharks. I had a hard time giving up my identity as an

0:32.3

athlete and then one day a woman in my dorm who was

0:36.2

deciding between medical school and becoming a professional dancer was talking about a ballet dancer she knew who was unfortunate

0:44.0

in that his legs were not the right shape.

0:47.0

He could work hard and he did.

0:49.0

He could have natural ability which he had,

0:52.0

but apparently his legs were going to be a limiting factor

0:57.2

a ceiling on the heights he could reach in his chosen profession and someone said well hey what about my legs

1:05.5

would my legs work and she looked at them and said nope yours are too thick and then she

1:09.9

went down the hallway and said yours are too short but whoa actually jacks are perfect

1:18.0

and everyone laughed and looked at my legs she said yeah Jack, that's the perfect shape. He's got the perfect ballet dancer legs.

1:27.7

In a way, I was flattered. Who doesn't like hearing a little praise now and then? But I thought well there you go that's just

1:34.5

typical isn't it I might have been born to do something that I've had no

1:40.0

interest in doing who knew now before you say oh it's not just just about having a nice

1:46.5

pair of gams Jack yes I get it I have no doubt that something else like grace or

1:51.5

rhythm or strength or dexterity or or desire or or

1:57.0

diligence something would have prevented me from becoming a barrijnikov.

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