This is John Batchel, a conversation with my colleague Richard Epstein of the Civitas Institute about the hearing,

oral hearing before the Supreme Court, about the tariffs. Mr. Trump has imposed on the whole world

on the basis of a one law that was passed in 1977 by the Congress that doesn't use the word terror, but has the

word emergency in it, also has the language of regulating imports, all very vague.

The court interpreted variously between the nine justices, and this is Richard's conclusion

of what we will receive from the court in several weeks or several months

about the legitimacy of the president's use of the 1977 law.

Much more of this tonight.

Richard Epstein.

Seven, two, and I think there'll be a split just as there was in the lower court, which is some

people will say it's just categorically wrong. And the more moderate position says, well,

occasionally it could use the tax, but this goes so far beyond accepted practices. Nobody's

ever done anything remotely like this in Iran or anywhere else. And so the president is just on the wrong side

of this fuzzy line between illegal authority and abusive legal. Professor Richard Epstein of