It's time for episode 609 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Monday, June 9th, 2025.

Clockwise, Four People,s where your time starts now.

My name is Dan Moran, and I'm joined across the internet for this very special episode by my good friend, my pal, the one.

And only Micah sergeant

how you doing today micah i'm doing well dan i have uh you know watched everything that has taken

place had comments on all of it and very much was sort of doing one of these and then i realized

no i can't actually see you in the crowd.

Look closer. Look closer. I'm waving at you all the time. Well, this is, of course, the show where we talk four tech topics with two fantastic guests. And we are live this week from Apple Park,

at least most of us. So to my left in the flesh is YouTuber Christopher Lawley. Welcome back,

Chris. Thank you for having me,

Jeopardy Champion, Dan Moore. Thank you for fulfilling your contractual obligations.

I am officially your hype man. To my left, though not in the flesh, but I suppose to Dan's

right is developer and Mr. Widget himself.

It's David Smith.

Hello, David.

Hello, it's great to be here.

I mean, it's an exhausting day, but it's a very exciting day.

Well, speaking of which, let's kick things off here.

One of the things I was most intrigued by is the new additions to Spotlight in MacOS.

A feature I did not really have on my bingo card

for getting updated. I'm curious to know if those features appeal to you and whether you use a

similar product right now, Raycast or Alford or LaunchBarr, whatever, and whether this will change

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