From Relay, this is Upgrade.

Episode 608.

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My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snell. Hi, Jason Snell. Hi, Mike Hurley.

Big show today. I'm very excited for today's episode. Busy, busy, busy. I have a Snell talk question for you.

Okay.

Comes from Seb. And Seb wants to know, Jason, if you were to appear on the UK Game Show Mastermind, what would you choose as your specialist subject? Now, I'll ask you,

Jason, do you know about Mastermind? Do you familiar with this show? I am vaguely familiar with the show.

This is a show where you choose the category and then they give you a bunch of hard trivia questions

about your category. Essentially, yes. You are, you're going on and saying, I have a specialist

subject and it can be super specific as a subject. You know, like, the band Oasis from the years

2000 to 2006 or whatever. And then they will go away and create a set of questions that

are tailored to the knowledge of that subject.

Yeah.

So what would you choose as your specialist subject?

Well, it's funny, because you think about like, I can think of lots of generalist areas.

Because when you're playing a game show, when you're playing Jeopardy, especially one of the things you think of is, what are the categories that would like to see come up in the game board and what are the ones that I would not like to see come up in the game board. But Mastermind strikes me as being a little bit different because I am not the kind of person who like, for example, like Star Trek, I know a lot about Star Trek, but like I don't want to answer Star Trek trivia because they're going to be like in this episode, what was the name of the ship that did this? And I don't know that. My brain doesn't work that way. So Apple is the answer. I think it would have to be, right? I think if I was to do it, I would also pick Apple within a very specific time frame. Sure. Because it's the thing

that I figure I have devoted the majority of my thinking to in my professional career. So I figure

that would also probably be my answer, even though I don't actually think I would be very good at that. I've heard, I've heard, you know, various shenanigans unconnected. And it is, Apple trivia is hard, but like, what is my other specialist subject? What other, I am literally an Apple specialist. So I think it would have to be that. I think it you would have to pick, like, the Mac. Yeah. Right. Like, you wouldn't want to pick all of Apple.

Like, it would be, right. Like, I would probably pick the iPhone, just like iPhone. Like, give me iPhone trivia. And I reckon I can probably do a decent job of that. Maybe. Yeah. I think, I think that's right. And I think you're right. I probably would end up just saying something like the Mac.

Yeah.

Because you'd be like,

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