From Relay, this is Upgrade, episode 607.

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My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snell. Hi, Jason. Hi, Mike. Good to be back on our official regular release schedule after last. People were upset. Some people were like, where is the episode? Why is it not out yet? And we can't really say why because it was an embargo. But you could usually figure out why, although sometimes then we do like a vacation

or something where we have to schedule things differently and people are convinced there's a conspiracy.

For the future. If the episode is not out and we haven't told you it's going to be delayed,

then you can make an assumption about why it's delayed. Right? That you can. Also, if Apple's

been doing stuff. Yeah. That's a good, like real ones know now. So you are now a real one, dear listener, that what happens after product announcements is that there are embargoes for the following week for reviewers. Well, sometimes we have and sometimes we don't. In the sense of, like, sometimes they're like Wednesday or Thursday, so we're not going to leave the show that.

We're not going to delay the show.

Right.

But in this case,

literally everybody wanted to talk about the MacBook Neo and I had one and had spent

days using it and pretending that I hadn't would have been ridiculous.

And so dropping it at embargo time in addition to being cool because we were like right out at embargo time also allowed us to do, talk about it freely, which we did.

And I was to say, well, we're being very insular in the beginning of the episode, I was very proud of last week's episode.

I think we did a really good job.

Yeah, I think it was good. I think it came together really good job. Yeah, I think it came together really

well. I was very happy with it. But Mike, we don't have time to talk about any of this because it's

time instead for a Snell Talk question. I actually have a Snell Talk question for you this week.

I'm monopolizing the Snell Talk questions again. Two weeks in a row I've done this, but there's a good

reason.

Jason, have you ever appeared on a game show? You know, in February, we checked into a hotel in Culver City, California, just outside of just north of L.A. uh, airport. And, uh, and the woman who checked us in,

Lauren and I are standing there and she says, oh, you're on the Sony rate. Which one of you

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