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Coaching for Leaders

607: How to Quit Bad Stuff Faster, with Annie Duke

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Annie Duke: Quit Annie Duke is an author, corporate speaker, and consultant in the decision-making space, as well as Special Partner focused on Decision Science at First Round Capital Partners, a seed stage venture fund. Her previous book, Thinking in Bets, is a national bestseller. As a former professional poker player, she has won more than $4 million in tournament poker. During her career, Annie won a World Series of Poker bracelet and is the only woman to have won the World Series of Poker Tournament of Champions and the NBC National Poker Heads-Up Championship. She retired from the game in 2012. Prior to becoming a professional poker player, she was awarded a National Science Foundation Fellowship to study Cognitive Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania. Annie is the co-founder of The Alliance for Decision Education, a non-profit whose mission is to improve lives by empowering students through decision skills education. She is a member of the National Board of After-School All-Stars and the Board of Directors of the Franklin Institute. She also serves on the board of the Renew Democracy Initiative. Annie is the author of Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away*. We’ve all heard the lie that, “Winners never quit and quitters never win.” In reality, one of the best practices to develop is how to recognize more quickly when you should quit something that’s not working. In this conversation, Annie and I discuss how to set kill criteria for yourself and frame goals in more helpful ways to know when quitting is the best answer. Key Points Kenny Rogers was right; professional poker players know that a big part of success is quitting approximately 75% of the time. “Quit while you’re ahead” is often poor advice since we tend to quit too early when good things are happening. On the contrary, we tend to quit too late when we’ve accumulated sunk cost. Determine kill criteria in advance when you’re not as likely to be swayed by the emotions of the moment. The best criteria contain both a state and a date. Find someone who loves you but doesn’t care about your feelings. Trust and permission are essential to open up these kinds of conversations. Effective goals include at least one “unless…” Resources Mentioned Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away* by Annie Duke Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes How to Pivot Quickly, with Steve Blank (episode 476) The Way to Make Better Decisions, with Annie Duke (episode 499) How to Build Confidence, with Katy Milkman (episode 533) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic.

Transcript

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Winners never quit and quitters never win. We've all heard that lie before.

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Of course we have to quit things that aren't working.

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The key is to notice it sooner.

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In this episode, how to recognize when you should quit and how to get there, a lot faster.

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This is Coaching for Leaders, Episode 607.

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Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.

0:31.0

Greetings to you from Orange County, California.

0:33.0

This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahopiac.

0:37.0

Leaders aren't born, they're made.

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And this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations.

0:46.0

How do we know when to walk away from something?

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How do we know when to quit?

0:51.0

Something a lot of us struggle with of being able to frame that in a way that's effective.

0:57.0

And yet of course our motions get in the way so much.

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Today I'm so glad to welcome an expert that's going to help us to think about how we can quit at the right time

1:08.0

and utilizing some tactical practices that will help us to make better decisions.

1:13.0

I'm so pleased to welcome back to the show Annie Duke.

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She is an author, corporate speaker, and consultant in the decision-making space,

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as well as senior partner focused on decision science at first round capital partners,

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a seed stage venture fund.

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Her previous book, Thinking in Betts is a national bestseller.

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As a former professional poker player, she is one more than $4 million in tournament poker.

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