All right. Hope you're doing well. Question from an ex-listener, and I really do appreciate

these questions I ask for them, and thank you so much for bringing them to my attention.

And so here's a question. And it is, are you an atheist based on refutation of the

teleological or cosmological argument or both? And how would you express your refutations?

That is a very, very good question. So I have an entire book about this, so I'm going to just get personal.

I'm going to get personal. And I'm going to talk about how I became an atheist from being, I would say, extraordinarily devout in my

younger years. One of my first memories is of playing with my cousin at my aunt's house

in the attic. And there was a song by Cliff Richard playing on the radio called Power to All Our Friends,

to the music that never ends.

And I remember, I've talked about this on the show before,

I remember there being a very cold eye that disapproved of the song because it was secular. And the funny thing is that Cliff

Richard is, I believe, quite a Christian does a lovely duet with Van Morrison. Whenever God

shines a light or something like that, it's really, really pretty. So, that's neither

here nor there. So I will tell you what happened

to my faith. I will tell you what happened to my religion. I will tell you what happened between me

and God. And I hope that you will forgive the indulgence in personal history.

Because the arguments I've put forward out there, whether they're theological or cosmological,

whether it's by design or the nature of the universe, I've already talked about that quite a bit.

And I've mentioned some of this stuff in passing, but I think it's important to understand

if you're interested, and it's not just my journey, I think this is the journey of a lot of

people in the West. I think it's important to understand how people end up giving up on faith,

giving up on religion, giving up on God. I don't know if it's some, I always think of it

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