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Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

606 | Musky Angling History with Larry Ramsell - Modern Muskie Records, IGFA

Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Dave Stewart

Leisure, Sports, Wilderness, Hobbies

4.7531 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/606


Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Jackson Hole Fly Company, FishHound Expeditions, Visit Helena, MT

Have you ever wondered what gear to use to land a world-record musky? Today, we're hanging out with musky legend Larry Ramsell. Larry has been fishing for muskies for over 60 years and has some crazy stories.

We chat about fake IGFA records, his mission to set things straight, and why some lures are worth $900! We'll also cover the significant issues facing the musky population and how to preserve these giants long-term.

This is another epic episode with one of the old-school anglers who paved the way for all of us!

Show Notes with Larry Ramsell on Musky Angling History. ed his first musky in 1957 and has spent 68 years chasing muskies all over North America and Canada.

03:44 - Muskies are native to areas like the St. Lawrence River, Georgian Bay, the Ohio River drainage down into Kentucky, the Mississippi River, the Chippewa River, the Wisconsin River, and parts of Eastern Minnesota.

Due to stocking and propagation efforts, muskies can now be found all over the northern half of the US and in Ontario and Quebec.

World Record Musky

4:31 - Some of the largest muskies ever caught have been found in the St. Lawrence River and Georgian Bay.

Despite being a native of Hayward, Wisconsin, which claims to be "home of world record muskies," Larry says that the records of the '30s and the '40s were all bogus.

6:19 - There are various record organizations for muskies:

  • International Game Fish Association (IGFA) in Florida
  • Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame in Hayward
  • Modern Muskie Records

Larry helped build the record program for the Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame in the early '70s. He later resigned from the Hall of Fame and started Modern Muskie Records.

07:00 - Their current record at MDMWRP is a 58-pound fish caught on Lake Bellaire, Michigan, in 2013.

IGFA recognizes Cal Johnson's 67.5-pound musky, while the Hall of Fame recognizes Louis Spray's fish at 69 pounds, 11 ounces. Larry points out that both records have been proven to be questionable.

13:26 - We discuss the challenges of verifying the legitimacy of musky records. Larry shares some instances of tampering, such as adding sand to increase the weight of the fish.

 
The Rise of Musky Fishing 

20:42 - In the 1960s, Muskies Inc. was founded, and they heavily advocated catch and release for muskies. As more people practiced catch and release, the musky population flourished. This led to the increased popularity of musky fishing.

23:00 - Larry points out the need for better handling practices when catching muskies. He says anglers should use the proper tools and techniques when handling and releasing the fish to ensure survival. Here are some of his tips:

  • Use a pair of bolt cutters to remove the hooks quickly.
  • Consider hand-holding the fish at the side of the boat instead of using a net, and keep the fish in the water as much as possible.
  • Avoid excessive photography.

29:08: Muskies can live up to 20 to 25 years or older. Larry also mentions the difference in egg production between musky strains.

Larry Ramsell's Musky Fishing Tips 

44:00 - Larry expresses frustration over some musky fishermen prioritizing expensive lures over proper gear, such as quality rods, reels, and lines.

He says that while it may not be a poor man's sport, there are affordable options to enjoy musky fishing. Here are some of Larry's tips for beginners:

Start with areas that have a higher population of musky.
Learn the techniques for catching muskies and how to handle them properly.
Remember that catching large muskies requires patience and skill.

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/606

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

How often are you focused on catching a big fish? A trophy fish. And would you like to find out where in the world you have a legitimate shot at a trophy muskie? And how much would you spend on gear and tackle and everything you need to get in a place to have a chance at catching a world record fish.

0:24.2

One of the biggest names in the history of musky is on the show today,

0:28.4

and he's got some crazy stories that are going to shed some insight onto musky and share some tips and tricks as we go along the way.

0:31.8

This is the Wetfly Swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing,

0:35.8

how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to support the fish species we love.

0:42.5

Hey, I'm Dave, host the Wetfly Swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid.

0:46.7

I grew up around a little fly shop and have created one of the largest fly fishing podcasts in this

0:51.3

country. I've also interviewed more of the greatest anglers than just about

0:55.2

anyone in the world. With over 60 years of fishing musky and working in conservation, Larry Ramsel

1:01.7

has seen just about everything from trying to remove bogus IFGA records due to guys putting

1:08.2

bolts and sand into musky to increase the weight to population

1:13.0

collapses around the area from killing too many fish. It's been Larry's mission to set

1:18.2

the record straight and preserve musky for all of us for the long term. In this episode

1:22.9

you're going to find out which tools you need for proper landing of fish. You're going to find

1:26.8

out which three big issues you need to address to protect these musky, and we're going to find out why

1:32.0

the follow has impacted so many musky fishermen over the years. Plus, you're going to hear about

1:37.2

why people are spending $900 for a lure in Larry's take on the current status of musky. We

1:43.9

touch on it all going way back and bringing it to present day.

1:47.0

Another epic old school angler who paved the way for all of us.

1:51.4

Here he is.

1:51.9

Larry Ramzel from Larry Ramsel.com.

1:56.4

How you doing, Larry?

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