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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

606 | Deep Dive: Target-Date Retirement and Bond Funds | Cody Garrett

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Investing, Careers, Business

4.85.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Most investors think they're buying the same thing when they choose a target date fund—but two people who bought 2025 target date funds 15 years ago could have 40% different returns today. Same target year, wildly different outcomes. The culprit? Fund families structure these "simple" investments in dramatically different ways, and most investors never look under the hood. Key Topics Discussed Passive Investing vs Active Financial Planning (00:03:30) Cody explains why you should be a passive investor but an active financial planner in your own life, noting that 95% of active investors underperform broad index funds over time. Understanding Target Date Funds (00:08:15) How target date funds work as default 401(k) options, automatically shifting from aggressive to conservative allocations as retirement approaches along a predetermined glide path. Surprising Differences Between Target Date Funds (00:18:45) The revelation that identical retirement target years can produce vastly different outcomes depending on fund family—differences in international exposure, bond types, and allocation strategies compound over time. Comparing Fidelity, Schwab, and Vanguard Target Dates (00:24:00) Detailed breakdown of how three major fund families structure their target date index funds differently, with varying philosophies on diversification and risk management. The Hidden Costs of Target Date Funds (00:32:20) Analysis showing target date index funds cost 35% to 400% more than purchasing underlying index funds directly. Fidelity's target date index fund, for example, is four times more expensive than buying Fidelity's component funds separately. Static Allocation Funds Explained (00:38:10) Introduction to balanced funds that maintain constant allocations (like 60/40 stocks/bonds) regardless of your age or proximity to retirement. Target Maturity vs Constant Maturity Bond Funds (00:42:30) Deep dive into how target maturity bond funds differ from traditional bond index funds—all bonds mature in the same year, converting to cash automatically without requiring you to sell anything. The Seven-Year Bond Strategy (00:48:15) Cody's approach to determining bond allocation: calculate seven years of planned spending and hold that percentage in bonds. If you'll withdraw $40,000 annually from a $1 million portfolio, hold 28% in bonds ($280,000) and 72% in stocks. Bond Ladders and Behavioral Finance (00:55:00) How target maturity bond funds overcome psychological barriers to spending in retirement by eliminating the need to "sell" assets—bonds simply mature into cash when you need it. Simplicity vs Complexity in Portfolio Design (01:02:30) Cody shares his personal eight-fund retirement portfolio strategy, explaining why something that appears complex can actually feel simpler from a behavioral perspective. Notable Quotes Mike Piper, CPA (quoted by Cody Garrett, CFP®): "There is no perfect portfolio, but there are countless perfectly fine portfolios." Rick Ferri, CFA (quoted by Cody Garrett, CFP®): "The perfect portfolio is the one you're going to stick with. Maintaining discipline is the hardest part of investing." Cody Garrett, CFP®: "Once you understand what a target date fund is, you no longer need one." Cody Garrett, CFP®: "Investing is like a bar of soap. The more you touch it, the less there is." Brad Barrett: "Success in personal finance and investing comes down more to behavior, vastly more to behavior than it comes down to any type of knowledge or intelligence." Key Takeaways Review your 401(k) fund lineup and sort by expense ratio to identify the lowest-cost index fund options available to you If your 401(k) lacks low-cost index funds (under 0.10% expense ratio), contact your plan administrator to request they be added to the fund lineup Calculate how much money you plan to spend from your portfolio over the next seven years to determine your appropriate bond allocation Visit Morningstar.com and review the portfolio tab of any target date funds yo…

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Choose a Phi. Today on the show, we have Cody Garrett back for another deep dive.

0:05.3

The focus today is there are multiple ways to invest to and through retirement. And today we're going to do a deep dive on some of those strategies.

0:13.9

He recently did this deep dive into target date funds and static allocation funds and compared 40 plus fund families.

0:22.9

And it was fascinating to see how different these, quote, index funds can actually be. I think this is going to be really interesting

0:27.5

for us, especially because there are so many different ways to invest. A lot of us have heard

0:32.8

about target date retirement funds and certainly bond funds. And I think what's so great about

0:37.3

Cody is he

0:38.6

dives deep. We've got a five page outline jam packed with info and knowledge for you to take away

0:46.3

from this episode. And of course, as always here at Chusify to take action in your life, to make

0:51.7

your financial life and your overall life just a little bit

0:55.1

better, one percent at a time.

0:56.9

I think you're really going to enjoy this episode.

0:59.0

And with that, welcome to Choose That Five.

1:05.9

Before we get started, I keep this podcast entirely ad-free for two reasons.

1:10.3

First, this is a five podcast,

1:12.1

and I don't want to promote products that I don't want you to buy in the first place. And second,

1:16.5

I really like the clean listening experience of a show where you don't have to fast forward ads.

1:21.2

To keep it ad-free, all I ask of you as a listener is the next time you open a travel rewards credit

1:26.1

card, go to choosefI.com slash cards. And with that, onto the show.

1:34.2

Cody, as always, welcome back, my friend. Good to see you, Brad. Once again, thanks for

1:39.3

keep inviting me back after all this time. You are absolutely one of my favorites. You know that.

1:44.1

You're just a real

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