604: The Shifting Sands of Liquid Glass
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4.5 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 23 February 2026
⏱️ 110 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From Relay, this is Upgrade, episode 604 for February 23, 2026. |
| 0:15.4 | Today's show is brought to you by Delete Me, Claude, Insta, 360, the Pets Table. My name is Mike Hurley and I'm |
| 0:22.6 | joined by Jason Snell. Hi, Jason Snell. Hi, Mike Hurley. How are you? Very good, thank you. I have a |
| 0:27.4 | Snell talk question for you. This one comes in from Jim who wants to know Jason. When you're making a |
| 0:32.6 | peanut butter and jelly sandwich, do you put the jelly on the peanut butter slice or on the |
| 0:37.2 | bare bread slice? |
| 0:39.9 | Wow. This is a perennial question. I feel like I've talked about this before. |
| 0:44.1 | None of that matters to Snell Talks. They'll always all come around again. |
| 0:47.6 | People want to know for some reason what my opinion of this is. And I do like a peanut butter |
| 0:53.6 | and jelly sandwich. It's one of this is, and I do like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, |
| 0:54.4 | it's one of my favorites. |
| 0:56.4 | And I feel like Jim has made the classic error, the classic logical error, which is making |
| 1:02.4 | assumptions about what all the options are for making a peanut butter sandwich. |
| 1:06.6 | And he's gotten it wrong. |
| 1:08.4 | He's really let himself down here. |
| 1:10.0 | Now, while I don't have peanut |
| 1:11.5 | butter and jelly, I do sometimes have, like, I'll have a jam, you know, maybe I have jam on toast or something, and I will follow the same thing that you're about to say that you do, I'm sure. That's right, because we should be clear. Mike has a nut allergy. Yeah. I could have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich but but it may be the last sandwich. Ah, the last. Oh, it would be a good one. That'd be a good one. I don't know. I don't know. So here's the answer, Jim. How you make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is you take the peanut butter and you put a layer of peanut butter on one slice of bread, |
| 1:44.5 | and then you put a layer of peanut butter on the other slice of bread. |
| 1:48.7 | Adjust according to how much peanut butter you want. |
| 1:51.5 | And then you put the jelly on one or the other of those slices, or both, I guess, whatever. |
| 1:56.9 | It doesn't matter. They're going together again. |
| 1:58.8 | Why do you do this? |
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