From Relay, this is Upgrade, episode 601 for February 2, 2026.

Today's show is brought to you by Century, FitBod, and Squarespace.

My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snow.

Hi, Jason.

It's a perfectly normal number now, 6.01, whatever, you know, it's fine.

Also, happy birthday, Mike.

Thank you.

Due to the mysteries of podcasting, we are recording this slightly before your birthday,

and it will appear slightly after your birthday.

But either way way happy birthday

38 years old i think that sounds about you're because you're a little trailer behind uh stephen

hackett who turned 40 this week the old age the high the high age of 40 i'm not even near it

so happy birthday to everybody i actually actually don't know. I think I'm 38. What year is it?

2026. What year is it? Classic old man question. 38. 38. This is a, this is a Mike Hurley. This is a Mike Hurley law story, but there was an episode of Analog where I referenced how old I was and got feedback from friend of the show Rob to say, you are not that age.

And he corrected me about my age.

Nice.

It happens.

I have a snow talk question for you.

It comes from Joey.

Joey wants to know Jason. Have you ever taken an overnight for you. It comes from Joey. Joey wants to know, Jason.

Have you ever taken an overnight Amtrak trip? For example, the California Zephyr is beautiful and

begins in the Bay Area. So American trains, this is the part where everybody in the rest of the world

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