Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profile, a former New York City

Prosecutor, writer-producer of of criminal minds. With me today is...

Kathy Canning-Meller, retired FBI agent and FBI profiler. Happy to be here today with you, Jim.

Yeah, we're going to discuss this. Very concerning case. Yes, very concerning, very interesting, very

difficult case. That is the abduction of Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy.

She's 84 years old. She is ill. She has a cardiac condition. She needs medications, and she's been

gone since last scene last Saturday night.

And it's already Tuesday.

There have been a number of ransom demands.

At least one of them turned out to be fake.

I'm not certain about the other ones

because it's been reported that there are

certain identifying factors in one of the letters

that tend to say that it's authentic.

So they could be real.

But we're doing that in the kidnapping cases we've worked,

ransom demand kidnappings, the kidnapper gets in touch

with the police in order to be paid the ransom,

which apparently has not happened yet,

or at least that's not been disclosed.

Wait, the kidnapper gets in touch with the police?

Right.

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