6-Year-Old School Shooting Trial: Abby Zwerner v. Ebony Parker — Day 5 Part 3
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
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🗓️ 6 November 2025
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Summary
Each day’s proceedings bring new testimony, evidence, and revelations about what happened inside Richneck Elementary School on January 6, 2023 — and the administrative failures that followed.
You’ll hear unfiltered courtroom audio, direct from the trial, as attorneys for Abby Zwerner seek $40 million in damages against former assistant principal Ebony Parker, accused of negligence so severe it nearly cost a teacher her life.
Hidden Killers brings you the voices, the arguments, and the raw sound of justice in progress — as a jury decides whether silence and inaction inside a public school can rise to the level of legal accountability.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to continuing coverage of the Abbey's Werner Civil Trial from the Hidden Killers podcast and True Crime Today. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 0:21.6 | Thank you. All right. |
| 0:48.3 | Now have yours in the box. |
| 0:50.3 | You may proceed with your closing argument. |
| 0:57.0 | Good afternoon. I'd like to begin by acknowledging the last six days you've spent paying attention to the evidence in this case. It's vital to our judicial system, and I want to thank you for that. |
| 1:20.6 | I'm going to tell you what I'm not going to do today. I'm not going to talk about verbs. I'm not going to talk about puzzles. I'm not going to talk about verbs. I'm not going to talk about puzzles. |
| 1:29.3 | I'm not going to talk about rain. I'm not going to talk about plane crashes. I'm not going to talk about baseball. |
| 1:35.3 | And I'm not going to talk about a will of fortune sign that has two tickets to paradise on it. |
| 1:41.3 | I'm going to talk to you about the evidence that you've heard in this case |
| 1:44.6 | we're going to start here you will receive a jury instruction that says that |
| 1:53.6 | you can't base your verdict on sympathy and why do I say that because here |
| 1:59.6 | doesn't feel sympathy from this learner. No one, no one. |
| 2:04.6 | We're not here to challenge that. But what this case is about? It's about real-time judgments |
| 2:13.6 | in an elementary school on January 6th, 2023. |
| 2:21.3 | Real-time judgments, not hindsight judgments. |
| 2:25.3 | It's about the likelihood that a six-year-old little boy |
| 2:30.3 | had access to a firearm, access to bullets, dropped off by his mom with a loaded |
| 2:37.7 | firearm in his backpack took a loaded firearm out of his backpack aimed a loaded |
| 2:44.7 | firearm at his teacher pulled the trigger and shot the teacher it was |
| 2:50.6 | unforeseeable, it was unthinkable, and it was |
| 2:55.4 | unprecedented. You heard many people tell you that, but we're going to start with this person. |
| 3:00.8 | Who was that? Amy Klinger. She's a national school safety expert. She's written a book on school |
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