You're listening to continuing coverage of the Abbey's Werner Civil Trial from the Hidden

Killers podcast and True Crime Today.

You heard from Ms. West who said, he was crying scared.

I talked about R a moment ago.

He was crying scared.

And I suspect what you're going to hear

from the other side is, well, we didn't get good information. Remember that? From Dr. Klinger?

Well, we didn't get good information. We didn't know that he was crying and scared. Somebody

should have told Dr. Parker that he was crying and scared.

When we go out onto the road and there's a stop sign on the corner of the street,

tuck it behind a little corner or right there for us to see either way.

It's our job as we're driving down the road to see the stop sign.

It's our job to look out for the stop sign.

It's our job to find the rules of the road and the signs of the road so that we can then govern our behavior.

It was Dr. Parker's job to investigate.

The manual that govern their relationships amongst each other

told her that you must first assume it is credible unless analysis

suggests differently cause the student making the threat if known and on

campus to be immediately removed pending further investigation what What does that mean? That means you can't

stick your head in the sand. You cannot stick your head in the sand and then come into

court and say, I didn't have the information when it was your job to find it, when it was your job to look for it and to do the investigation and to talk to that little boy who saw the gun and to talk to those two little girls who talked about the gun and to talk to all of these people if it's's your job to investigate, which their handbook tells

them it was, you can't come into court and say, I'm going to close my ears, close my eyes,

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