Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hansen.

If you're new to the show, thanks for joining us today. And if you've listened before,

welcome back. I am really excited for today's episode, which is part of a series that we're

currently doing on the lessons we can learn from different

approaches to therapy. We've already done two episodes on psychoanalysis, and we aired our first

episode on humanistic psychology back in September. In that episode, we covered some of the

foundations, what humanism is, why it emerged as a response to psychoanalysis and behaviorism,

and the work of Carl Rogers,

who still has a huge influence on the practice of modern therapy.

And today we're looking at what happened after that.

Two branches, if you will, of the humanistic tree that pushed into what I think it's

fair to call more challenging directions.

The first is existential psychology, which tried to help people

wrestle with hard questions about what it means to create an authentic, meaningful life. And the

second is transpersonal psychology, which pushed the field toward the edges of ordinary human

experience and asked whether the individual self was really the whole story here. So we're focusing today on the lessons

that we can take from these schools of therapy and into our own life. So to help us do that,

I'm joined as usual by clinical psychologist Rick Hanson. So dad, how are you doing today?

I'm good. And I am proud to say that I am a card-carrying humanistic psychologist. That's right. This is

your tradition, all the parts of your tree here, Dad. Before we get into it, I wanted to give you a

quick reminder about Rick's upcoming workshop on self-worth. It starts this week, and it runs for six

weeks online, and it'll help you work with self-criticism, shame, and regret. So it's very

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