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Saturn Returns with Caggie

6.9 Feminism, Equality and Navigating Patriarchal Culture with Dr Sarah Rutherford (aka Caggie’s mum!)

Saturn Returns with Caggie

Caggie Dunlop

Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

4.8892 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Sarah Rutherford is a consultant, writer, and speaker with an academic background in organisational culture. She is the author of the book Women’s Work Men’s Cultures: Overcoming Resistance and Changing Organizational Cultures (Palgrave Macmillan). She also happens to be Caggie’s mum! In this conversation, Sarah explains a brief history of feminism and how progress in equality isn’t always linear; we only have to look at what is happening in the world today to see how quickly women’s rights can be taken away and why they have to continue to be fought for. She shares her insights on culture in the workplace, how women’s experiences often differ vastly to men’s, and the reasons why. They also discuss the stigma around women helping women, which Caggie refers to as the “female wound” and this feeling we often have that there isn’t room for all of us to succeed.  This is also an interesting insight into Caggie’s personal life, as it’s her first time having a family member on the show! --- Follow or subscribe to "Saturn Returns" for future episodes, where we explore the transformative impact of Saturn's return with inspiring guests and thought-provoking discussions. Follow Caggie Dunlop on Instagram to stay updated on her personal journey and you can find Saturn Returns on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok.  Order the Saturn Returns Book. Join our community newsletter here.  Find all things Saturn Returns, offerings and more here.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me Kagi Dunlop. This is a

0:09.8

podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be confusion and doubt.

0:22.0

And you look terrified.

0:25.0

I'm not terrified.

0:27.0

What?

0:29.0

You just don't like that I don't plan anything.

0:32.0

Supposing you ask questions at all, I don't plan anything. Supposing you ask questions that I don't think are very good ones.

0:36.0

That's my forecast.

0:38.0

Today I wanted to talk to someone who has thought a lot about feminism and

0:45.6

women's rights in a practical context, specifically the workplace. Dr Sarah

0:51.0

Rutherford is a consultant and researcher who wrote the book Women's Work Men's Cultures in 2011,

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and has since advised and helped organizations identify barriers to women's progress, suggesting ways they can change their culture and

1:05.8

coaching their senior management.

1:08.5

She is quite the powerhouse and she's also my mom. So this week's episode is going to be a unique one because it's both educational and personal as you get an insight into the dynamic between me and my mother.

1:24.0

I grew up in Barnes, London with my mom, my brother, and my dad.

1:30.0

And my mom has always taught me to be independent.

1:34.0

She's always been very career driven.

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And that was my example, that was my role model growing up,

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which I am so grateful for because she's always encouraged me to seek out my own path

1:46.8

and not to just settle or think that I'm not capable of doing things myself.

1:52.1

She's also educated me a lot about subjects

1:55.0

that I perhaps wouldn't have known about and today we're going to look at the

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