Welcome to Keith Knight. Don't tread on anyone in the Libertarian Institute.

Today I'm joined by Stefan Molinue, host of Freedomain.com, and the author of Real Time Relationships,

The Logic of Love. Mr. Malinu, where is the best place for people to get a copy of this book?

Well, it's available on my website, and thanks for having me back on. Nice to chat again. It's available on my website at freedomane.com slash books.

Sounds good. Links to that will be in the description below. On page 270, you say, the reason I call it

the RTR real-time relationship is because it is all about telling other people in the moment how you feel.

Why is this a productive approach to relationships?

Yeah, it's interesting.

When I grew up in England, I lived in this apartment building, sort of a low-rise apartment building,

with sort of paper-thin walls.

And I suppose it was not the most elevated circles in society as a whole.

And I just remember hearing, you know, couples fighting and yelling and not getting along

and escalating and all that.

And I just remember thinking very clearly at the time, like, what's so

tough about just being nice and getting along? Like, what's, what's the big barrier? Why, why would

people fight? Why would they yell at each other when they claim to love each other? Why would they

have all of these problems? And of course, my mother was a single mother. She went through

these relationships and there were conflicts and problems. And I just saw a lot of fighting. And it was

kind of hard to comprehend, like why people would get involved in these negative relationships,

why they would claim to love each other, but yell at each other and call each other names.

And then, of course, I had my share of relationships in my teens and 20s, and then I got

married in my early 30s, and I've been, you know, very happily married for now over 23 years,

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