It's time for episode 586 of the Clockwise Podcasts from Relay, recorded Monday, December 23rd, 2024.

Clockwise, four people, coming to you live from Up on the Rooftop.

I am one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the eaves here on the roof by my good friend,

my pal. It is Dan the man Morn. How you doing, Dan? I'm doing well, Micah. It is our final show of the

year. And I'm ready to be down from this rooftop. It's quite cold. It's the most final episode of the year. I don't know. Anyway, let's introduce our awesome guests for this, the final episode of the year. How could we not have podcaster and fiber artist Aline Sims joining us? Hello, Aline.

Hey, thanks for having me on again. And as is contractually obligated whenever we have a lean on,

because we got to keep them even in the leaderboard, except I don't think they are. We have

my left is screensaver developer, professional book reviewer and Glasgow tour guide.

James Thompson.

Welcome back, James.

I can't decide if I'm the ghost of Christmas past or future, but I'm a terrible vision either way.

While we all ponder what James might be, let us kick off the show with my topic.

30 minutes, four topics. Let's do it.

Question, are you more or less likely to invest in smart home products if Apple enters the competition after hearing about how the company might be working on a doorbell and locking device that uses face ID.

Aline, we'll start with you.

I am generally more likely to invest in any product if Apple enters the competition.

Maybe naively, I believe that their dedication to security and

encryption is of paramount importance to them. I don't think it's something that they just

espouse. It's something that they actually work toward. And I don't believe that of other

companies. Having said that, opting into

surveillance bothers me, seeing random people on the street. Like, a homeowner has posted the video

captured by their ring camera without the knowledge or permission of the person. Like,

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