It's time for episode 585 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, December 18th,

2004.

Clockwise, four people,s where we discuss four calling birds with two turtle doves.

My name is Dan Morn, and I am joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, and the man who there are 12 days of Christmas up, it's 12 Micah Sargent.

Hi, Micah.

Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.

I think that was 12.

Okay, yes, the 12 and only, Micah Sargent.

This, yes, we won't discuss birds this week.

We'll discuss tech topics for tech topics with two fantastic guests.

To my left this week, it is a first-timer on Clockwise, a contributor at Max Stories,

co-host of Comfort Zone, among other shows.

It's Neelyon Dorfer.

Thank you for being here, Neelian.

Hey, thank you for having me. Hello. And to my left, VFX artist, podcaster on

defocused and six colors contributor plus guy who had a birthday sometime recently, because I

forgot to ask if you were okay with it. It's Joe Steele. Hello, Joe.

Hello, Micah. I'm happy to be one of the four calling birds on this show and happy early

birthday to you as well. Thank you very much. Yeah, I love being in truth says guy who recently

had a birthday. I panicked. I was like, wait, we didn't say if he was okay with it.

Okay. Everything is going great this week. All right, let me kick things off with my topic.

Rumors this week of a giant foldable iPad that could expand to have a enormous screen,

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