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Today on the James Altiger Show.

This is the literal history of innovation and progress globally is that new things create

more new things.

In a way that is logical when you look back on it, there's a kind of zigzag logic to it

and it's really, really hard to see that stuff.

Right.

It's the living with uncertainty we start with, which you need to do.

You need this as there's always that river of uncertainty.

You need to wade through to get to the other side.

Boom, poetic description.

It was very nice.

And so the question is, I think for for an event, how can you communicate the game?

How can you show people the game instead of saying, trust us, there is game.

And so how do we wrestle with?

This is the thing that I find really interesting.

How do we wrestle with the good that comes from terrible?

Because this is ultimately the story of innovation.

I mean, the black death and coronavirus to, you know, a lesser but still significant

extent is a story of something new and disruptive coming along.

And causing pain, but in the end causing a lot of innovation and progress.

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