Hi there, this is Stefan Molineux. So just a note, this is the second part of a two-part conversation.

The first is with the husband that is the previous show to this one, and this one is with his wife.

So don't listen to this one without listening to the husband's ones first. I think the context is very important.

So just go one show back if you're listening to this

without listening to the husband's one before. And if you have listened to that, let's get started.

Nice to meet you. I'm glad we're getting a chance to chat. Always good to hear, I guess, both sides of

the tail. So yeah, what was it like for you listening to the last Convo?

And how do you think I did?

And what do you – I mean, sure there's tons to add to it.

So what do you think?

I think your question of why did you call me was a very good one.

Because I'm not entirely 100% sure what my ex-husband was looking for as far as an outcome from your guys' conversation. I've listened to it probably three separate times now.

There's a lot for me to take away from it.

I think that you speak a lot about relationships in a way that I need to hear.

Obviously, my ego was offended at certain points and my feelings, but I think ultimately what you had to say was

true. All right. Yeah, it's a funny thing to hear other people talking about you, right? I mean,

I've had this a couple of times in my life just by accident where people didn't know. And so I guess,

yeah, that is a bit of a surreal thing to go through. So when

you say ex-husband, has there been a big change? Did I miss something? Well, he's moved out

and we're not speaking and, you know, he's gone through all the terms of divorce. And so as far as I'm concerned we're on the pathway.

Okay. And when did that, when did he move out? He moved out, um, the 23rd of November. He spoke with you.

You know that, right? No, no, no, of course. Yeah, no, I'm aware of that. He spoke with you. You know that, right?

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