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This is David we've all been watching we've all been on the edge of our

seats over and I did an episode the other day about it and to my surprise one of my

patrons is actually in Ukraine, living in Ukraine, and has been a

fan of the show for a long time. I asked if he would speak with me. He was kind enough to

say yes. Join me in welcoming Roman to the podcast.

Thank you for having me on.

It's so like pleasure for me to talk with you and since I've been a fan for many of years and I've been listening to a lot of your podcast and I'm speaking to you directly. It's like dream coming true. That's very it's very kind of you. I wish it was under different circumstances.

You know, I did the episode about where we just kind of mentioned Ukraine and then I saw your comment on Patreon saying thank you for what you said about Ukraine and I was like are you actually there or are you from there and you said no you're you're living in Ukraine right now and I immediately was just like

I don't know the show was just so far less important I was just like are you okay is your family okay you know I

couldn't imagine being in a country where you're you're legally not allowed to

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