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The James Altucher Show

577 - How to Navigate Uncertainty in Quarantine with Psychologist Scott Barry Kaufman

The James Altucher Show

James Altucher

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4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2020

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Everyone says, “Flatten the curve.” But there are two curves. We all know the main one: the spread of coronavirus. The other curve is the spread of psychological viruses; fear, anxiety, worry and panic. We’re all experiencing Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. We started out attacking each other for basic items like toilet paper, then we moved on to connection (Zoom calls and FaceTime), but how do we get to the top of the pyramid (i.e. self-actualization)? I called up Scott Barry Kaufman, a humanistic psychologist and author of “Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization.” And he had a lot of practical advice. One of his tips: We don’t have to worry about finding our one true purpose. We just need to find a purpose right now and pursue it. This episode will help make a roadmap for finding your purpose and fulfillment while stuck in Quarantine. And after. I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast. Thanks so much for listening! If you like this episode, please subscribe to “The James Altucher Show” and rate and review wherever you get your podcasts: Apple Podcasts Stitcher iHeart Radio Spotify Follow me on Social Media: YouTube Twitter Facebook Linkedin

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0:00.0

This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

0:06.6

This is the James Altiger Show.

0:12.6

Today on the James Altiger Show.

0:16.0

If we're severely deprived of our basic needs, it snaps us into a particular worldview.

0:21.7

So, Kristen.

0:22.7

Can I ask you a question?

0:23.7

Yes.

0:24.7

When I was reading your book, obviously I was reading it while under lockdown here in New

0:28.9

York City and it struck me that this is probably one of the greatest times of uncertainty in

0:36.4

history really for the entire globe.

0:38.0

I mean, 9-11, there was uncertainty, the financial crisis, there was uncertainty, but

0:41.5

this event has proven to be larger than those events in many ways.

0:46.9

And you see people regress, like people fighting on the floor of whole foods for the last

0:54.0

roll of toilet paper.

0:55.5

And by the way, I'm not making fun of them.

0:57.2

I just feel like what's happened is that the uncertainty has removed layers of this

1:03.0

hierarchy of needs.

1:04.0

So we're kind of even struggling now with the basic layer.

1:07.6

And so it's kind of reversed our direction towards self-actualization and so on.

1:13.4

Like the great thing about your book is it's very practical in terms of achieving these

1:17.8

higher goals.

1:19.1

So now we start to get into your notions of transcendence.

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