Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole show.

So let's talk about money, shall we?

Because that is what I'm talking about in this episode with my guest, Varnouche Terrami,

she is one of America's leading personal finance experts.

She's the host of the award-winning podcast, So Money, which has earned over 30 million downloads. It is a very popular

podcast. She is a sought after speaker and she's written a bunch of books and

actually we're talking about her newest book which is called A Healthy State of

Panic and it's part memoir, part guidebook on how fear can be a superpower

to achieve true wealth and career success, along with being featured in the New York Times,

Wall Street Journal, Time magazine,

Varnouche has appeared frequently on the Today Show, Good Morning America, and so much more.

I actually met Varnouche, I gotta say, I swear it has to be 15 years ago when I first met her through a mutual friend

Salina Sue. We had like a business breakfast together and we just sort of stayed in each other's

sphere since then.

And whenever I have money questions,

I always see what would she say about it.

So the book is The Healthy State of Panic,

Follow your fears to build wealth, crush your career, and win at life.

I hope that you enjoy my interview with Farnoosh as much as I enjoyed interviewing her. This is the Terry Cole show and as you might have guessed I'm your host Terry Cole.

For over two decades I've been a licensed psychotherapist, Love and Boundaries expert, and

I'm also the founder of the Real of Revolution and Boundary Boot Camp. On this show I'll bring you

simple strategies based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and

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