Hello, once again, this is Connor Hall, senior producer for wrongful conviction,

where I'll be offering case updates, behind-the-scenes info and insights from cases we've covered over the years.

And one case that comes to mind is Larry Delisle.

I've gotten a lot of emails from folks on the inside, but Larry is probably the most prolific for two reasons. He usually writes to me during holidays or major life events, which gives him plenty of reasons to write.

And two, it's just been so many years since we started writing each other.

I mean, my son was just a few months old when we met, and he's going on seven now.

And that's not too far off from Larry's oldest back in 1989.

When all this happened.

He and his wife Sue lost all four of their children.

One tragic summer evening when it appears that the accelerator in their station wagon jammed and they sailed into the Detroit River.

And only Larry and Sue survived.

Larry was not only accused of the murder of all four of his children, but Sue's attempted murder as well.

But she stuck by him.

I mean, there's video of this conviction where, I mean, she falls apart.

You can see it on the confession tapes on Netflix.

And beyond that, even after she moved on to start a new life and got married, I mean, she remained committed to his innocence, which makes what happened at his parole hearing in

2023 so strange. See, after the release of our initial coverage in 2021, Jason advocated to

whomever would listen and the University of Michigan Innocence Clinic picked up Larry's case,

prepared for his parole hearing,

and I remember talking to Jason right after the hearing.

And apparently it had been going really well.

I mean, they, you know, exposed the false confession,

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