572 GG Themself. Comma Splices.

Grammar Girl Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing

Mignon Fogarty, Inc.

Society & Culture, Education

4.5 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2017

⏱️ 12 minutes

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You've finally accepted that it's OK to use the singular 'they'--sometimes--but now you have to decide whether to use 'themself' or 'themselves.' Don't worry, the new Chicago Manual of Style has you covered, and we talk about it today. Also, I've been getting complaints about comma splices, so it's time for a refresher. Read the transcript at http://bit.ly/2ramGjn Check out all the Quick and Dirty Tips shows: www.quickanddirtytips.com/podcasts FOLLOW GRAMMAR GIRL Twitter: http://twitter.com/grammargirl Facebook: http://facebook.com/grammargirl Snapchat: http://snapchat.com/add/thatgrammargirl Pinterest: http://pinterest.com/realgrammargirl Instagram: http://instagram.com/thegrammargirl LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grammar-girl GET GRAMMAR GIRL BOOKS http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/grammar-girl-book-page SHOPPING AT AMAZON ANYWAY? USE OUR AFFILIATE LINK AND HELP THE SHOW! http://quickanddirtytips.com/amazon TAKE OUR PODCAST LISTENER SURVEY http://podsurvey.com/GRAMMAR Grammar Girl is part of the Quick and Dirty Tips podcast network.

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0:00.0	I'm a new developer.
0:06.0	Grammar Girl here.
0:07.0	I'm a new Foggerty.
0:08.0	In this week, I have a quick and dirty tip about whether you should use the word,
0:11.8	themself, or themselves, and a meeting middle about comma splices and how to fix them.
0:18.8	But I have a quick announcement before we start.
0:21.0	I am working on updating my iOS game grammar pop so it will work when the new Apple operating
0:26.7	system is released in September.
0:29.0	As some of you know, I made Grammar Pop myself and it's been a few years since I even looked
0:33.4	at the tool I used to make it, but I've already started and it looks like it will be pretty
0:37.8	easy to update.
0:38.8	So I fully expect that Grammar Pop will keep working.
0:42.1	Thanks for asking for those of you who did.
0:44.8	And now let's dive in.
0:47.2	Back in April, after the Style Guide updates that came out of the American Copy Editor
0:51.0	Society meeting, I told you that both the AP Style Book and the Chicago Manual of Style
0:56.9	now say it's okay to use they as a gender neutral singular pronoun, at least in some
1:02.3	cases.
1:03.3	Well, Liam on Twitter had a great question that I wasn't able to answer at the time.
1:09.0	He wrote, if they can be used as a gender neutral singular, do you use themself or theirself
1:16.1	or theirself in why?
1:18.1	Well, the Associated Press has been mostly silent on the issue.
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