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572. Ex-CIA Spy: Conspiracies, Simulations & The Truth About UK Immigration

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Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.4 • 968 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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What’s really happening to the West? In this explosive episode of Heretics, Andrew Gold speaks with Andrew Bustamante, a former CIA spy who reveals the truth about immigration, the deep state, and the existential threats facing our world. SPONSORS: Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://link.outskill.com/ANDREWS2  Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics  Start your MyHeritage journey now with a 14-day free trial using my link: https://bit.ly/AndrewGoldMyHeritage Go to https://TryFum.com/HERETICS  and use code HERETICS to get your free FÜM Topper when you order your Journey Pack today!  Want to learn more from Andrew Bustamante? Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/4k34eCZ  Read Andrew’s CIA book ‘Shadow Cell’: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook   Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante  Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/   Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy  Listen to the podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast  --- From walking through London neighborhoods that no longer feel like London, to the political lies behind immigration, to the nuclear danger with Iran, Bustamante exposes the uncomfortable realities our leaders and media refuse to discuss. This is not the polished, politically correct version of events — it’s the unfiltered truth about immigration, surveillance, propaganda, and the decline of democracy. 👉 Subscribe to Heretics for more anti-woke, uncensored interviews with spies, whistleblowers, and controversial thinkers who dare to speak the truth. #CIA #HereticsPodcast #AndrewBustamante  Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com  Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates  Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok   Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 0:00 Andrew Bustamante Highlights 1:10 What the CIA Actually Is! 4:05 How Involved Is President Trump? 5:10 Would Trump Know About UFOs? 8:10 The Value of Secrets & Conspiracies 9:50 We’ve Become More Isolated 12:10 The World Going to Sh** 14:10 The Existential Risks 17:10 Democracy Declining 19:10 Shocked to See London 21:10 Why Immigration Was Invented 24:10 State of Emergency & What Americans Think Of Us 27:40 The Chinese Threat 30:10 Iranian Nuclear Threat 33:10 Would A Nuke Take Israel Out? 36:40 Did the US Make A Mistake Attacking Iran? 39:10 Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize Attempt 41:55 Where Andrew Bustamante Worked in CIA 44:00 Prevent’s Terrorism Statement 46:10 The Deep State 47:20 How Andrew Bustamante Got Into The CIA 50:10 The Test Andrew Bustamante Failed 53:10 The Crazy Simulation 54:25 The CIA’s Secret Mole 57:10 Structuring Like A Terror Cell 58:35 Nathan Fielder’s Rehearsal 59:40 A Heretic Andrew Bustamante Admires Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

To walk through neighborhoods even in London that aren't London. Has that been a shock to you? It's absolutely been a shock. I think it might be an emergency in the UK. I turned a block and then all of a sudden I wasn't in London anymore. People are expecting nuclear hellfire to rain down from Iran. An actual existential problem that we really should be paying attention to. I don't want to be that guy going like, hey, hey, it's like the worst thing you can be, anti-immigration.

0:24.6

What makes you feel like there's anything wrong with being the person who's anti-immigration?

0:28.6

The problem is that we've been socially cultured, that's all political bullshit.

0:34.6

That's all stuff that you feed a stupid citizenship to make them feel like

0:39.6

we're doing the right thing by letting

0:41.2

foreigners into our country.

0:44.7

Fuck that.

0:47.4

Fuck that. That's not why immigration

0:49.3

was invented. Immigration was invented because...

0:53.3

God! You got a guy! immigration was invented because that's it. That's why immigration exists.

1:03.6

Hi guys. If you're on Spotify or Apple, please make sure to follow. And if you can share this

1:08.8

podcast with just one friend, it will help enormously,

1:11.9

maybe even two friends. Or three, that's a free and easy way to grow one of your favorite

1:16.3

podcasts. You look wonderful. I love the hair. I appreciate it. Tell me, so we're going to talk

1:22.6

about your book, but we're also going to talk a little bit about the CIA. What is the CIA?

1:26.4

In layman's terms, what is it? And yeah, tell me a bit about your background in it. Yeah, so it's a great question because a lot of people don't understand what CIA really is. Outside of this organization that's secrets that they don't like and they don't trust, most people don't really know what it does. But CIA is the foreign intelligence collection arm of the U.S. government. What that means is when the

1:46.1

U.S. government needs secrets from outside of the United States, CIA is charged with collecting

1:51.8

those secrets from human beings, what's known as human intelligence or humant. There are

1:57.0

other intelligence organizations within what's known as the intelligence community, and each member of that community has a different intelligence collection responsibility.

2:05.6

But collecting foreign secrets from human beings is the primary charge of CIA.

2:10.3

I see. And we have like the MI6. Is that the equivalent?

2:13.2

MI6 is the equivalent here in the UK, correct.

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