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I think it's really beautiful geez it's what I struggle you? It was quite a bit. It's like your head exploded. It's like you're head exploding. And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person at just one time. Right. On everybody. How's it going? Welcome to the Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy, and I am in Los Angeles. It's good to be

with you. I have Eva Hagberg Fisher on the program today. She has a new book out called

How to Be Loved, a memoir of Life Saving Friendship. It is available now from Houghton Mifflin-Harkort.

I had a great time with her, and I think you're going to really enjoy the conversation.

That's coming up in just a moment.

I do want to read some mail before we get there.

I got a lot of mail from you guys about last week's episode, my conversation with Roger

McNamee in episode 571.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with that episode or with Roger McNamee, he is a longtime Silicon Valley investor who was one of the earliest investors in Facebook and served as a mentor to Mark Zuckerberg back when Facebook was just getting off the ground.

And essentially what happened, and I'm summarizing here.

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