#570: Surviving Ohio State gets personal continued

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Kathy and Jim interview Mike Disabato, Ohio State Champion wrestler, who comes from a record-holding championship legacy family, about his experience as an Ohio State University wrestler and Survivor of sexual assault by the team doctor.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Kathy Canning-Ballow, retired FBI agent and profiler, and here with me is my dear friend, Jim Clementi. How you doing,
0:23.5	Kathy? I'm retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer-producer of criminal
0:28.5	minds and Bluebeard on Audible. And with this today, we have a very special guest.
0:35.2	Mike DeSabato, here in Columbus, Ohio, and I'm the whistleblower on the Ohio State
0:41.2	sex abuse case involving our team doctor.
0:43.7	We're super grateful to have you here today.
0:47.2	Since the surviving Ohio State documentary aired, was it last month or I don't even know
0:52.8	it's been a month ago.
0:56.0	We've had... June 17.
0:57.9	So just a little bit of a month, right?
0:59.5	Wow.
1:00.5	So since that aired, we've had Stephen Snyder Hill and Mike Schick on to discuss their
1:06.9	experiences.
1:08.0	And I happened to see your interview the other day with Ben MySallis of the Midas Touch network. And I happened to see your interview the other day with Ben Mysalis of the Midas
1:12.9	Touch Network. And I was just struck and I sent it right off to Jim to view as well with your
1:20.6	authenticity, discussing your own experiences and victimization. And particularly I was moved by your support of the other victims.
1:30.9	And you're wearing a pin today. Could you tell us a little bit about that pin that you wear?
1:35.7	Actually, I'm wearing my varsityo jacket that is given to athletes that earn a varsity letter at Ohio State, I do so because it represents the thousands
1:49.2	of male athletes from 1978 through 1998 who were abused by a team doctor with knowledge
2:00.1	up by the university.
2:03.2	And the pen I'm wearing was actually gifted to me
2:07.8	by a whistleblower at the University of Michigan,
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