Hello, this is Real Crime Profile, and my name is Kathy Canning Mello.

I'm a former FBI agent and profiler.

And here with me is. Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI profile, a former FBI agent and profiler. And here with me is,

Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI profile of former New York City prosecutor and writer-producer

of criminal minds. And today we have a great and heroic returning guest. Who is?

My name is Steve Snyder Hill, and I'm known as Student B and the Perkins Cooey Report from Ohio

State, the documentary that was called Surviving Ohio State that's out on HBO Max.

Great, Steve, and thank you so much again for joining us, and we're continuing this conversation,

and you provided some really interesting, fascinating details about what happened.

And what we're going to try to do today is sort of fast forward, if we can, up to 2018,

when this case broke.

And if you could just explain to us, you know, what brought that about?

How did the case break and the civil suit that ensued?

So I actually have, this is interesting, I have video from my security cameras of me working out

in 2018 when the news stories about DS came on. I had heard a lot of stuff about wrestlers at OSU.

I had never made the connection at all because to me, I just thought that this was something that happened to me, probably got the guy in trouble,

and it was just done. And then all of a sudden, you're hearing all this stuff about wrestling,

and the doctor. And I saw his face on TV and I about died. I was like, oh my God, that's the guy.

And so that's when I started researching and find out that this whistleblower came forward.

And then instantly you start reading about the whistleblower and he start seeing what the media was starting to paint.

You know, is he credible?

You know, what is his credit like?

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