on, Hey guys welcome back. This is the Mom Struggling Well Podcast, the podcast where we laugh

about motherhood so we don't cry about it.

Because although motherhood's so amazing and so important, it's also really hard.

And sometimes we want to quit, but I don't know about your husband. My husband keeps telling me I can't do that. So we have

episode 57 here and I am talking to my friend Debbie Chapman. She is a

speaker and a writer and most recently a retreat planner. You'll get to hear about that later, but very noteworthy is the fact that she has 11 children.

1, double digits. So impressive. As you can imagine, she has a lot of mothering wisdom and you can just tell that she has learned so much.

You're going to really love our chat.

We talk about teenagers, we talk about technology, we talk about knowing ourselves.

Before we get started though, I wanted to remind you about the mom struggling well,

mugs, they're red, their campfire, mugs, they're cute. I use mine every day, except if it's dirty, but sometimes

if it's dirty anyway. The great thing about the mugs is they help support the costs associated

with the podcast.

So I really appreciate that.

My husband really appreciates that.

And then my kids get to eat, so everybody wins.

Okay, so that last part's not true,

but I felt like it added a little bit of flare.

You know what I mean?

I'm going to be giving some away this week, mugs, not children, just to be clear.

Because when we reach 5,000 followers on Instagram, I thought it'd be fun to give some stuff away.

And I'm the boss of that, so there we go.

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