Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former in New City Prosecutor and Writer producer of Criminal Minds.

And Bluebeard on Audible. What today is?

Kathy Canning Mello, retired FBI agent, former FBI profiler with my dear friend Jim Clementi.

How you doing, Kathy?

I'm well. How are you doing?

I'm good. And we you doing? I'm good.

And we're going to be talking about a very important documentary that came out recently and blew my mind.

I mean, really blew my mind.

It's called Surviving Ohio State.

And there's so many reasons why this is an important documentary.

And we'll go through a lot of them.

But to start off, I have to applaud all of the people that were able to come forward and tell their stories, tell what happened to them, even though they did it with great personal risk to their reputations, to their

lives. It's just unbelievable. Yes. And this abuse, Jim, occurred from the 1970s through the 1990s. So many of

these victims, even though they disclosed way back in the 1990s,

for whatever reason they weren't believed or they felt like they didn't have enough support to

disclose then. It took many years later until this scandal went public. Right. Well, I'm going to start off by telling you, not the name of the bad guy, not the name

of the asshole that did this, but the names of the people who were strong enough to come

forward and tell their stories.

Dan Ritchie, he's a teacher.

I believe he went to Perkins High School and he told, you know, such a compelling story.

I mean, it's heart wrenching.

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