I'm a professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford.

It's pretty obvious that you have a multitude of abilities and a stellar track record.

You started to become interested in unidentified aerial phenomena.

Somebody representing the CIA and an aerospace company showing up at my office at Stanford showed me their credentials and said,

we need your help looking at patients who have had harm done to them. And then a small subset of

them said that they'd been in proximity to things that you would call a UFO. I thought it was a

joke at the beginning. Let us know if you would, what the hell you think is going on.

That there's something non-human here, and it's been here for a long time.

I imagine it's put a bit of a bump into your life.

I mean, maybe one that's mostly interesting, but still, to call it strange,

is to barely scrape the surface.

If something is here, it's likely been here longer than humans

have even been civilized. Dr. Gary Nolan is an immunologist, academic inventor, and biotech entrepreneur,

serial biotech entrepreneur.

He's a professor at Stanford University School of Medicine, and somewhat surprisingly, a UFOologist.

We talked about his career, his research interests, the rise of AI,

and his interest in unidentified aerial phenomena.

So, Dr. Nolan, Gary, before we get to the heart of the matter

with regards to your interest in unidentified aerial

phenomena, more commonly known as UFOs, let's talk a little bit about you so that we can

situate you in the minds of our readers.

So you have a remarkable research background and a technology background.

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