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5628 My Girlfriend LIED to Me! Freedomain Call In

Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

Stefan Molyneux

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🗓️ 6 September 2024

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Hello Stefan,

This is time-sensitive, as I likely will make a decision within a week. Here is some background:

I've been seeing a girl long distance for several months. I am physically fit, have a solid income, and work full time after completing my undergrad. We briefly met on a dating app in college and rekindled the relationship over a year later. Our relationship is long distance, so we call regularly, and I visit each month as my work schedule allows for decent time off.

We share many values and goals, and both come from similar backgrounds—our families are together, and our parents haven't divorced. We don't have political conflicts, and she agrees with me on most values. Both of us intend to have kids, and I see being a father and husband as one of the grandest honors a man can ever have.

The shared values and character traits I perceived in her made me think I had a real catch on my hands.

She recently invited me to meet her family, where I had an excellent time. They all live near each other, so I had a real trial by fire in an extended family reunion. Nonetheless, we all enjoyed each other's company, and her father particularly seemed to enjoy my company.

There is another upside to this situation: Although I am an atheist and she is a Christian, she saw past this. After the first two months, I told her about my atheism. Although unexpected, she was understanding and wanted to continue seeing me. This has been a dealbreaker for people in my past, so her acceptance was significant to me.

Now, here's where I am conflicted. When we met, she told me she was waiting for marriage. I was happy to hear this as I have been as well. It has been a serious struggle for me, but I knew I wouldn't endanger my future marriage over something temporary.

However, after last week's family meetup, she revealed that she is only NOW waiting for marriage. As recently as the beginning of this year, she had not abstained. She has a body count of 3, and in her last three relationships, she has only partially abstained, given her Protestant view of what is and isn't sex. This revelation has left me very conflicted.

I recognize the tentative nature of my situation and wonder if I might not find someone who shares all my values, especially given our age. I wonder if I am asking for too much, particularly from someone who understands my lack of religiosity.

Part of me says I'm young and have time to try again—this is what the gambler in me says and what most men I trust in my life suggest. The other part of me, which cares for her very much, doesn't want to end things. Some of the women in my life have expressed that I should forgive and forget.

Well, Stefan, do let me know what you think. Your advice is truly appreciated.

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0:00.0

All right, do you want to just start off by reading the email and we'll take it from there?

0:04.4

Yeah, sure, you know, before we start, could I say, um, I want to say thank you for all your content,

0:09.7

you know, um, when I was younger and kind of had some harder times you were really a good you gave me a lot of hope and a lot of tools to face life with reason so

0:21.3

I'm really I wouldn't be the man I am today if I wasn't for you so

0:24.6

thank you I really really appreciate that thank you that's very kind yeah okay

0:30.5

so I've been seeing a girl one Okay, so, yeah, I'll read my letter.

0:33.0

So I've been seeing a girl long distance for several months.

0:36.0

Do you have me to include the ages or no?

0:38.0

Yeah, ages is fine.

0:40.0

Okay.

0:42.0

So I'm 24, she's 21.

0:45.0

I gave you a little background about myself, but we met on a dating app in college.

0:49.0

We didn't talk after I moved away.

0:52.0

About a year she reached out again, rekindled.

0:58.5

Overall, we share many values and goals. We both come from similar backgrounds. Our families are together and

1:03.7

our parents haven't divorced. We don't have political conflicts. We really agree on a lot of that

1:08.2

stuff. She's also into peaceful parenting, which I really love. She agrees with me on most values both of us

1:14.3

intend to have kids. I see being a father and a husband is one of the grandest honors a man can have.

1:20.1

The shared values and character traits I perceive in her make me think I really had a catch on my hands.

1:25.0

She recently invited me to meet her family. I had an excellent time.

1:29.0

They all live near each other out in Sticks and so it was a really big family reunion, a very big meeting.

1:35.0

So, but that said it was a really good time everybody enjoyed each other's company and

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