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561 - What Does the Brown Forman and Pernod Merger Mean? On Bourbon Community Roundtable #117

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🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

It’s time for another Bourbon Community Roundtable, and we’re diving straight into the tectonic shift that just rocked the industry. In this episode, we dissect the confirmed mutual interest between Brown-Forman and Pernod Ricard. Following the massive news of Gallo’s acquisition of Four Roses, we’re debating what this level of consolidation means for the "little guy" and whether craft producers are about to get squeezed off the shelf entirely. We’re navigating the anxiety surrounding job security and brand identity, wondering if icons like Old Forester and Woodford Reserve can maintain their soul under Pernod’s management. We’re breaking down the hype, the heartbreak, and the reality of a changing landscape in 2026. Pour a glass and join the conversation. Show Notes: In-depth analysis of the Brown-Forman and Pernod Ricard merger Discussion on distribution effects for smaller whiskey brands Concerns regarding Brown-Forman's community contributions and local charities Insights into the future of Old Forester and Woodford Reserve Speculation on changes in Kentucky Derby sponsorships Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The alcohol game is a leverage game, and you want to talk about combining two big conglomerates.

0:05.9

That is a crazy amount of leverage that they will now have internationally, not just in the

0:11.9

United States, not just an American whiskey, but all sorts of categories.

0:15.8

So I think it's a really smart move by both of them, and I honestly don't think it will affect most

0:21.7

of our side of things, consumer side of things, in the way of American whiskey.

0:50.0

This is Bourbon Pursuit, the official podcast of Bourbon, bringing to you the best in news, reviews, and interviews with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen, and I'm one of your hosts, Kenny Coleman.

1:07.0

Here we are. Once again, a month later, another Bourbon Community Roundtable. In this one, we take a few different viewpoints about some of the biggest news that has been shaking up inside of the spirits industry, and that is the potential merger between Brown Foreman and Pernaud Ricard. We take a few different angles of this, but we really look at Fred's perspective when he

1:12.4

really talks about what this means for the city of Louisville. But beyond that, it's also coming

1:19.5

to understand that this is a business and you're always beholden to this shareholder at the end

1:25.2

of the day. I'm not going to spoil it for you, but I hope you enjoy this week's episode,

1:29.7

and now here's Fred Minnick with Above the Char.

1:32.7

I'm Fred Minnick, and this is Above the Char.

1:36.7

This week's idea comes from Keith Norton, who writes me within the Patreon chat.

1:42.3

Do you see American single malt's

1:44.4

as the next big thing in whiskey,

1:46.2

or is it just a phase

1:47.7

that people are branching out to?

1:50.1

Well, Keith, that's a great question.

1:51.8

Now, the difference between being a fad

1:55.1

or a phase in the whiskey circle

1:57.7

is that American single malt

1:59.9

has its own federal definition now.

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